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		<description><![CDATA[I had a sad conversation at work yesterday with a few co-workers. I was playing a live Joy Division song. I don&#8217;t recall the song now, but Ian Curtis was lamenting into the microphone. His cries were blaring out of the speakers when one of my co-workers exclaimed with a grimace, &#8220;what is this?&#8221; I [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-39" title="joy_division" src="http://ben.iswhoi.am/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/joy_division-300x290.jpg" alt="joy_division" width="300" height="290" />I had a sad conversation at work yesterday with a few co-workers. I was playing a live Joy Division song. I don&#8217;t recall the song now, but Ian Curtis was lamenting into the microphone. His cries were blaring out of the speakers when one of my co-workers exclaimed with a grimace, &#8220;what <em>is</em> this?&#8221; I responded &#8220;Joy Division&#8221; and she remarked back sarcastically about the music lacking joy. I could only laugh and think to myself &#8220;no shit.&#8221;</p>
<p>I quickly started into a monologue about how influential Joy Division was and still is, and how the The Killers wouldn&#8217;t be around if it weren&#8217;t for Joy Division. Neither would Nine Inch Nails, Morrisey, Depeche Mode, The Cure, Nirvana, Radiohead, any kind of 80&#8242;s electronica, and of course New Order &#8211; all some of the best music of my time on this planet. But explain this to a handful of twenty-somethings who are more preoccupied with what Britney or the Jonas brothers did last week. Hey, I can&#8217;t hold them responsible for this though, I was like them once, so I took the time to play some Joy Division to them. I played a few songs, the requisites of course, like Love Will Tear Us Apart and New Dawn Fades. I held off on my personal favorites like Digital and Dead Souls. They took it in, mostly, and their eyes lit up when they recognized a melody or a lyric. OK, mission accomplished.</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m a snob, and I probably am a bit, when it comes to music. I&#8217;m not alone either. I have plenty of snobby friends who dress the part and attend more shows than I can anymore. Thankfully I had another music snob  in the office who was able to back me up on these things and help school these kids.</p>
<p>I find myself now feeling like one of those jerks from when I was a teenager trying to educate me on the influence of David Bowie or Thelonious Monk. I guess this is a sign of aging.</p>
<p>I found out yesterday, from my office ally, that there was a movie released last year titled <a title="control movie ian curtis" href="http://momentum.control.substance001.com/" target="_blank">Control</a>, about Joy Division but more specifically Ian Curtis, and directed by legendary photographer <a title="anton corbijn" href="http://www.corbijn.co.uk/" target="_blank">Anton Corbijn</a>. The trailer is below. It&#8217;s next on my Netflix queue and I can&#8217;t wait! But will it make me feel old, and even more of a snoot? Who cares, at least I know good music!</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had a sad conversation at work yesterday with a few co-workers. I was playing a live Joy Division song. I don&#8217;t recall the song now, but Ian Curtis was lamenting into the microphone. His cries were blaring out of the speakers when one of my co-workers exclaimed with a grimace, &#8220;what is this?&#8221; I [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-39" title="joy_division" src="http://ben.iswhoi.am/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/joy_division-300x290.jpg" alt="joy_division" width="300" height="290" />I had a sad conversation at work yesterday with a few co-workers. I was playing a live Joy Division song. I don&#8217;t recall the song now, but Ian Curtis was lamenting into the microphone. His cries were blaring out of the speakers when one of my co-workers exclaimed with a grimace, &#8220;what <em>is</em> this?&#8221; I responded &#8220;Joy Division&#8221; and she remarked back sarcastically about the music lacking joy. I could only laugh and think to myself &#8220;no shit.&#8221;</p>
<p>I quickly started into a monologue about how influential Joy Division was and still is, and how the The Killers wouldn&#8217;t be around if it weren&#8217;t for Joy Division. Neither would Nine Inch Nails, Morrisey, Depeche Mode, The Cure, Nirvana, Radiohead, any kind of 80&#8242;s electronica, and of course New Order &#8211; all some of the best music of my time on this planet. But explain this to a handful of twenty-somethings who are more preoccupied with what Britney or the Jonas brothers did last week. Hey, I can&#8217;t hold them responsible for this though, I was like them once, so I took the time to play some Joy Division to them. I played a few songs, the requisites of course, like Love Will Tear Us Apart and New Dawn Fades. I held off on my personal favorites like Digital and Dead Souls. They took it in, mostly, and their eyes lit up when they recognized a melody or a lyric. OK, mission accomplished.</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m a snob, and I probably am a bit, when it comes to music. I&#8217;m not alone either. I have plenty of snobby friends who dress the part and attend more shows than I can anymore. Thankfully I had another music snob  in the office who was able to back me up on these things and help school these kids.</p>
<p>I find myself now feeling like one of those jerks from when I was a teenager trying to educate me on the influence of David Bowie or Thelonious Monk. I guess this is a sign of aging.</p>
<p>I found out yesterday, from my office ally, that there was a movie released last year titled <a title="control movie ian curtis" href="http://momentum.control.substance001.com/" target="_blank">Control</a>, about Joy Division but more specifically Ian Curtis, and directed by legendary photographer <a title="anton corbijn" href="http://www.corbijn.co.uk/" target="_blank">Anton Corbijn</a>. The trailer is below. It&#8217;s next on my Netflix queue and I can&#8217;t wait! But will it make me feel old, and even more of a snoot? Who cares, at least I know good music!</p>
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